Minutes of West Hove Forum meeting – 27th July 2022

Minutes of West Hove Forum meeting

Wednesday 27th July 2022 at Hove Museum

Attending:  Edward Clay (WHF Chair and Wish Park Surgery PPG), Jane Galvin (WHF Secretary & KAWHRA), Martin Lawrence (WHF Treasurer and Lawrence Art Supplies), Ann Forster & Francis Leroux (Friends of Wish Park), Richard Hearnden (Friends of Stoneham Park), Mike Gibson (Hove Station Neighbourhood Forum & WHSAG), Rob Boyle (Head Gardener, Royal Pavilion & Museums Trust), Caroline Sutton (Marketing Manager, Royal Pavilion & Museums Trust), Cllr Garry Peltzer Dunn (Wish ward), Peter Reeves (KAWHRA), Jane Eleini (Secret Garden Group), Phil Withers (Hove Beach Croquet Club), Sylvia New (Healthwatch), Stephanie Kenton (Pembroke Neighbours group), Richard Robbins (local resident), Angie Starnes (Friends of Hove Lagoon)

Apologies:  Cllrs Carmen Appich & Chris Henry (Westbourne ward), Cllr Robert Nemeth (Wish ward), PCSOs Aidan Goodwin & Jess Lee, Cathy Biggs (Hove Beach Hut Association & WHSAG), Helmut Lusser (Hove Civic Society), Rich Wheeler (Community Engagement Officer – West), Steph Windsor (St Leonard’s Church), Sunny Choudhury (Brighton District Bangladeshi Shomity), Rose Hetherton (WHSAG)

  1. Minutes of last meeting and matters arising

The minutes of the meeting on 25.5.22 were accepted.

Arising from those minutes, Mike commented that speeding is an issue near Hove Station, as it is in Portland Road, and a Community Speedwatch group is to be set up. He will report back to the forum on how this goes.

Garry said that a speed reduction is likely to be part of any proposed Mini-Holland scheme. If that doesn’t go ahead, Portland Road will be considered in isolation.

  • Chair’s Report – Edward Clay

Friends of Hove Lagoon

Angie Starnes has replaced Joanne Mitchell as our Friends of Hove Lagoon representative.

Affordable Housing

The affordable housing discussion has been deferred to September, as the council officers were unavailable in July.

Lifeguards

A lifeguard post has been restored in West Hove for the school holidays (between Berriedale Avenue and Langdale Gardens). This will be open daily from 11.30am to 5.30pm.

Edward wrote to Toni Manuel (Seafront Development Manager) on behalf of the forum acknowledging her efforts in doing this. Information on the new lifeguard post has been posted on the council website but it would be helpful if this can be spread.

Weeds

Edward wrote to council leader Phélim Mac Cafferty about weeds on behalf of the West Hove Forum and has now received a reply, from which he learned nothing new. Edward believes that the council did not adequately prepare itself before implementing the decision to ban glyphosate. The most effective way of killing the weeds, he said, is using high pressure steam – this method is being used by a number of councils in the Netherlands.

Garry thought the council would welcome this advice.

Richard Hearnden commented that leaves are seldom swept up in the autumn, forming a rich compost in the gutters that only makes the situation worse.

  • Community Safety

Jack Bull is to take over from Jessica Lee as the Wish Park PCSO at the end of September, when Jessica joins Response. Until then, they are working together.

  • Mini-Holland feasibility study

The council officer leading the study, Laura Wells (Principal Transport Planner), was unable to attend the meeting due to the train strike.

She told us by email that the study needs to be submitted to the Department for Transport by the end of March 2023. It will be a highly competitive process with other authorities. It will cover the whole of Wish and Westbourne wards, including the boundary roads – Station/Boundary Road, the A259 and Sackville Road.

Mini-Holland involves intensive, transformational spending on local roads and streetscapes to make them, over time, as cycle and pedestrian-friendly as their Dutch equivalents. This may include installation of high-quality segregated cycle lanes on main roads, low-traffic neighbourhoods and high streets, and greater road-space allocation for people walking, as well as cycle parking at homes and destinations. You can see various schemes that Waltham Forest have done here: https://enjoywalthamforest.co.uk/work-in-your-area/

Laura said it’s important to note that Mini-Holland is not solely infrastructure but also needs to include supporting information / communication campaigns in the community in order to evoke the behaviour change needed.

Mike said he had received an information pack which he could circulate.

It was decided that we should invite Laura to an hour-long one-issue Zoom meeting as early in the autumn as possible (in addition to the usual West Hove Forum meeting). This has now been arranged for Thursday 8th September, 7pm, via Zoom.

Garry said it would be best to have the preliminary meeting without councillors involved.

  • Hove Museum garden

Royal Pavilion & Museums Trust (RPMT) Head Gardener Rob Boyle attended the meeting to tell us about his ideas for Hove Museum garden.

Stephanie Kenton said that local residents had some concerns about the garden at the moment, which seemed to be a bit unloved.

Rob said that the RPMT had taken over the management of Hove Museum from Brighton & Hove City Council at the end of 2020. The Trust is just starting to recover from Covid and in the next five years they will be back up to having a proper income.

Rob is currently writing a strategy for Hove Museum garden and has lots of ideas. He is very keen on engagement with the community; for example, he’d like to work with local schools, as the Trust have done at Preston Manor, where they have shown groups of children what it’s like to look after plants and also identified different bugs. He hopes to set up a volunteer group, similar to the Friends groups in local parks. He would like it to be more like a garden than a park and wants to reduce the shrubs in autumn/winter, which should help to reduce anti-social behaviour. In the spring he would like to add a welcoming colour at the front.

Richard remarked that there were parallels with Davis Park and it would be a good idea for any new Friends group to speak to the Friends of Davis Park, who turned a dog-walking area into a fantastic park full of colour. Angie said that what had been done with Norfolk Square was also brilliant.

Edward suggested they could organise a small meeting with representatives of other Friends/garden groups in the area to share experiences and Garry said that the Trust could perhaps explain what influence local residents could have on the museum garden. Jane could provide Stephanie with links to other groups.

Edward commented that any new community group at the museum could be eligible for a Healthy Neighbourhood Fund grant.

  • Healthy Neighbourhood Fund reports

Friends of Wish Park – Ann Forster and Francis Leroux

The Friends received £500 last year to buy refreshments for their volunteers and it’s been good to get together at the café and bond after gardening sessions. They’ve spent about £300 of the money so far. (They don’t always meet up afterwards as sometimes people have to get away.)

The number of volunteers varies a lot – from six people to sometimes more than twelve.

The Friends have a rota to water the new trees at least twice a week and they haven’t lost any yet despite the drought.

Gerald, the park ranger, is the cornerstone to the Friends’ activities. His hours were reduced some years ago and if there wasn’t a friends group the park would go to rack and ruin.

Friends of Hove Lagoon – Angie Starnes

The Friends of Hove Lagoon have spent all their £500 grant money – on expenses and tokens for volunteers, and on gardening tools such as wheelbarrows, spades and kneeling pads.

They’ve received a lot of compliments from the public on the planting scheme and they would love to do more. Under the Kingsway to the Sea scheme they will lose daffodils.

The outdoor gym was supposed to be sustainable for a long time, but the wood became rotten and dangerous. (It’s very close to the sea.) It was very well used but there’s no money to pay for a new gym. It would cost £15,000 to restore it as it was and £80,000 to replace it properly.

Secret Garden Group – Jane Eleini

The £500 grant money was put towards the development of the pond. They appointed a project manager, but the garden was affected by terrible vandalism, with teenagers hurling all sorts of things into the pond. Robert Nemeth dived in and retrieved a lot of them but it was suspected the lining had been punctured. This was a big setback and a bit soul-destroying.

They informed the police and are now going to install an interactive CCTV camera in a cage on a wooden pole, which they hope will be a deterrent. They will then be able to repair the pond liner.

Friends of Stoneham Park – Richard Hearnden

FoSP got £434 which was split between two projects. They spent £100 on gardening equipment and £334 for licensing fees to put on some open-air cinema screenings, which were successful and a good way for people to improve their mental health. People attended with their children.

They still have one of the licensing fees left so will show another film or two this autumn. (It needs to be dark for the projector.)

  • Kingsway to the Sea update – Mike Gibson

The designers are now detailing all the elements – a planning application is to be submitted at the end of August. The big issue is how all of this will be managed and paid for. Helmut Lusser (Hove Civic Society) has suggested creating a Community Interest Company. The tennis courts are particularly problematic as other clubs in the city now run their own courts. This issue will be discussed during the autumn. Mike would like the council to identify good practice elsewhere for managing and maintaining the park, other than the model the council are proposing at the moment.

Garry said he appreciated these fears, but the planning application needs to proceed at a breakneck pace and any delay would be fatal to the scheme.

Mike suggested that the planning committee could make it a condition of approval that alternative models are explored.

  • A259 cycle lane update

Prior to the meeting, we received an update by email from council officer James Hammond who is managing the project for a new A259 cycle lane between Fourth Avenue and Wharf Road.

Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) notices were placed along the proposed new A259 cycle lane route at the end of July and advertised in the press. The deadline for feedback from the public closes on 12th August. The next step is that a report will be presented to the council’s Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee with the results of the TRO. If the committee approves the proposals, construction will start in October/November and, once begun, all works should be completed within 12 weeks.

Mike commented that the need for more crossing points should be kept on our agenda.

Next meeting:

The West Hove Forum will be holding a special meeting on Thursday 8th September (7pm via Zoom) to discuss the Mini-Holland feasibility scheme and our next regular meeting is on Wednesday 28th September (2pm, venue to be confirmed).

Minutes of West Hove Forum meeting – 25th May 2022

Minutes of West Hove Forum meeting

Wednesday 25th May 2022 via Zoom

Attending:  Edward Clay (WHF Chair and Wish Park Surgery PPG), Jane Galvin (WHF Secretary & KAWHRA), Cllr Garry Peltzer Dunn (Wish ward), Cllr Chris Henry (Westbourne ward), Cllr Robert Nemeth (Wish ward), Cllr Carmen Appich (Westbourne ward), Martin Lawrence (WHF Treasurer and Lawrence Art Supplies), Ann Forster (Friends of Wish Park), Richard Hearnden (Friends of Stoneham Park), Cathy Biggs (Hove Beach Hut Association & WHSAG), Peter Reeves (KAWHRA), Helmut Lusser (Hove Civic Society), Jane Eleini (Secret Garden Group)

Apologies:  Mike Gibson (Hove Station Neighbourhood Forum & WHSAG), Francis Leroux (Friends of Wish Park), Joanne Mitchell and Sue Johnson (Friends of Hove Lagoon), Phil Withers (Hove Beach Croquet Club), Rich Wheeler (Community Engagement Officer – West), Steph Windsor (St Leonard’s Church), Joanne Heuston (Berriedale House Residents Group), Sylvia New (Healthwatch), Nigel Sarjudeen (Off The Fence), Liz Ward (Friends of Hove Lagoon)

The minutes of the meeting on 23.3.22 were accepted and introductions were made.

  1. Chair’s Report – Edward Clay

Affordable Housing

The council officers who were due to speak on affordable housing were unable for the second time to make our meeting, as they had to attend a council meeting at short notice. Edward wondered whether we should continue trying to discuss this topic.

Ann commented that affordable housing is an important issue, as there is so much development going on, with no affordable housing in any of it.

It was agreed that we should look for other contributors, in addition to the council officers.

Beacon lighting

The permanent LED lighting of Hove Beacon is a genuine celebratory item in our area and the beacon will be something to celebrate in the months to come.

Healthy Neighbourhood Fund

Groups will be asked to report back on their grant projects at the July meeting.

  • Community Safety
  • Lifeguards

Edward reported that he had emailed Toni Manuel (Seafront Development Officer) to ask whether the West Hove seafront would be getting lifeguards this summer. She didn’t formally reply but was pessimistic about this in an informal conversation at the Kingsway to the Sea presentation, as lifeguard stations now need to be double-manned.

Garry commented that we shouldn’t accept the situation but should write to the council saying they will be held liable for any incidents. Other forum members agreed that it wasn’t acceptable for West Hove not to have lifeguards.

Edward said that on the positive side more buoys were in place than previously and there were also new safety signs for paddle boarders and kayakers.

Garry said the very fact that the council had recognised these dangers underscored the fact that there is a substantive risk.

It was agreed that Edward would draft a letter to the council to express our concerns.

  • Weeds

Martin said that weeds on the pavements were a safety issue and his road (Pembroke Avenue) is never cleared.

Richard agreed that it was a safety issue because dogs do their business in the weeds and it can stay there for ages.

Robert replied that he and Garry had been raising this at the council for two years. They tabled a Notice of Motion calling for a rethink, asking for the council to remain flexible on the use of weedkillers, but other groups voted against this. You need 250 people to weed the whole city manually, but the council have only eight or ten people to do this.

Edward commented that if weeds are allowed to grow unchecked they will damage the pavements etc – it’s a real problem of short-termism.

Robert said that people can trip over the weeds very easily.

Helmut’s point of view was that revenue expenditure at the local authority has reduced dramatically; at every part of our city things are creaking because there is no money. Traders in Portland Road should go out there and clean up. It is our city so we’re going to have to help ourselves.

Chris suggested that there are other solutions to the weed issue, eg steam removal. We should look at what other cities are doing. Peter Kyle has written to the council leader, Phélim Mac Cafferty, asking for a replacement solution, but hasn’t received a reply. He said each group at the forum should push this with the administration, as they need to accept that something needs to be done. An Argus article on this contains the solutions (https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/20113966.hove-mp-peter-kyle-letter-council-pavement-weeds-brighton/).

Martin commented that, as with lifeguards, the suburbs are neglected.

Garry said there are 840 miles of pavements in the city and it takes five hours to weed 100 yards properly.

Chris suggested that the forum write a letter to Phélim Mac Cafferty and this was agreed.

(c) Speeding

Jane Eleini reported that Portland Avenue has been experiencing traffic at high velocity since the advent of the parking scheme and it has become a rat run.

Edward said that the non-enforceability of speed restrictions was an important issue and we should come back to this subject.

Robert said that the West Hove area had been selected for a Mini-Holland feasibility study (https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/news/2022/funding-award-mini-holland-feasibility-study-0). One element of this is reducing speed, but they need to get it right and it could be divisive. That’s the one big bit of expenditure for this area that will resolve the speed issue. There are winners and losers with these low-traffic schemes, though, as people on main roads tend to get the brunt of the traffic.

Ann, Martin and Richard all commented on speeding in various parts of West Hove. Robert explained that speed bumps are no longer put in anywhere.

Edward asked Robert to liaise with Jane to make sure we don’t miss the consultation and we will come back to this issue when it looks like the key moment.

  • Portland Road litter

Richard is concerned about litter on Portland Road. It’s a major commercial area with two pubs, lots of shops and takeaways, but there aren’t enough bins. On the south side there are six litter bins – one of these is provided by the Co-op. The north side is even worse with only three bins. Wheelie bins are often full and overflowing, with bags torn apart by seagulls. A large number of wheelie bins are being left on the street and it needs an area to keep bins tidy.

Robert said that there are now Time-Banding Zones (T-Zones) in parts of the city, including Blatchington Road, which means that trade waste bins and bags can only be out on the roads and pavements at certain times. People will want this for Portland Road, but the council need to perfect everything in central areas of the city first. Robert is happy to ask the council to extend this T-Zone to Portland Road.

The council has agreed to bring in communal bins for residents on Portland Road – this was meant to happen 18 months ago.

Richard said the council needs to come up with a solution on bins for the flats.

Garry commented that he found 11 pizza boxes when picking up litter in the south-east section of Stoneham Park. The bins are full when you’ve picked up the rubbish.

Helmut suggested that £1 could be added to the cost of takeaway pizzas, which would be refunded when the box was brought back. Traders in Portland Road could sign up to that. He also suggested that bins could be removed so that people would have to take their own rubbish home.

Edward wondered whether we should contact Cityclean to ask for more bins and make suggestions on where they could put additional bins, eg by Intenso café.

It was agreed that Robert would email the council and get an answer for us.

  • Kingsway to the Sea

Cathy reported that the council presentations at the King Alfred Leisure Centre had been very well attended. There was a meeting of the WHSAG on 24th May at which there were objections to KTTS from residents of Berriedale House and Welbeck Court. The skateboards are also unhappy that their area is so small.

Rose Hetherton will send her findings to Vicki Linton-Crook, the Project Manager. The WHSAG are due to meet with a member of the cycle lane team.

Chris commented that the scheme is truly inspirational. All the plans are on the council website and feedback is percolating into the plans. He thanked people like Rose who manned the stalls.

Peter warned that we need to be alert that an important part of the project could get knocked off when the money is added up and made to fit. Chris agreed.

Peter said it would be very striking if we could end up with the number of trees shown in the plans. Toilets were one of the most popular things people were asking for.

Chris said there would be a brand new toilet block (by the bowling club, with an attendant).

Edward said it was all very encouraging, but it would be a challenge to sustain the scheme through time.

Garry commented that it was absolutely essential that Kingsway to the Sea and the A259 cycle lane project go hand in hand, and liaison hadn’t been as good as it should be. He doesn’t know whether there is a corporate view of how the two schemes will work together.  Chris agreed with this.

Edward said that there may be a lack of funding to integrate the two schemes as costs are rapidly rising.

  • Round Robin

Chris reported good news – the council has released a chunk of money for Jubilee planting. Each community group can get £200; they need to flag their interest to their councillor, who will contact Cityparks. This information has been passed on to all our garden groups. (See: https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/news/2022/brighton-hove-jubilee-planting-scheme)

Richard had more good news – new trees have been planted in Stoneham Park in the tarmac, with a draining system under each one. It will look fantastic. Richard also wondered where the planters on Portland Road have gone.

Ann reported that the 16 new trees in Wish Park are doing very well. There is a rota for watering. There was to be a Bring & Share Jubilee Lunch on 5th June, which would be a low-key event with a few children’s activities.

Garry said that he and Robert had finally got the cages taken off the recycling bins in Wish Park.